Joanna Newsom Calls Madonna ''A Dumbass'' And Lady Gaga ''Arty Spice''

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Joanna Newsom appelle Madonna “A Dumbass” et Lady Gaga “Arty Spice”.


Joanna Newsom criticizes Lady Gaga and Madonna


Joanna Newsom Has Harsh Words for Lady Gaga and Madonna
Posted on May 10th 2010 12:45PM by Carter Maness
Lately, it seems that one of the primary responsibilities of being an indie star is taking shots at your mainstream counterparts, and virtuoso harpist and songwriter Joanna Newsom is playing her part by going after Lady Gaga. In a recent interview with the Guardian, Newsom admits that Gaga crafts a stunning and provocative visual image but thinks fans are being lazy by attributing some sort of musical genius to her work.
"I'm mystified by the laziness of people looking at how she presents herself and somehow assuming that implies there's a high level of intelligence in the songwriting," Newsom said. "Her approach to image is really interesting, but you listen to the music and you just hear glow sticks. Smart outlets for musical journalism give her all this credit, like she's the new Madonna ... Although I'm coming from a perspective of also thinking Madonna is not great at all. I'm like, fair enough: she is the new Madonna, but Madonna's a dumbass!"
Even Newsom knew that she had thrown down the gauntlet and the blogosphere would come calling. She issued a clarification that tried to refine her stance but continued to mock Gaga and her crazy outfits. At one point, she even referred to the pop sensation as "Arty Spice."
As for Madonna, Newsom wasn't so quick to apologize. She felt bad for calling Madge a dumbass, but that's about as far as she's pulling back on her harsh criticism.
"I shouldn't have called Madonna a dumbass," continued Newsom. "Her music and she have just gotten so boring to me, this last decade. I think maybe she doesn't hold her money very gracefully, the way some people can't hold their drink. But one thing she is surely not is dumb."
Source: Spinner.


Joanna Newsom: 'Is it time for a glass of wine?'
She models for Armani, enjoys a game of baseball and likes to stay out drinking cocktails. Jude Rogers meets Joanna Newsom, the outspoken singer making harp-playing cool
Jude Rogers
guardian.co.uk, Sunday 9 May 2010 21.30 BST

Not for the first time, Joanna Newsom looks a little out of place. We are on the set of Later with Jools Holland, and she is sitting behind her huge harp, a tiny figure, with Iggy Pop and Ozzy Osbourne to her left, and Courtney Love to her right. Then she starts to play, and sing. Iggy stares at her for a moment, before sitting back. A broad smile spreads across his face.
In the six years since Newsom released her debut album, The Milk-Eyed Mender, she has remained a constantly surprising presence. The reasons are legion. She makes ambitious folk-inspired records in an era when the album is meant to be dead. Her lyrics mix archaic language with modern vocabulary, sung in a distinctive, stark voice – which a critic for AllMusic.com described as "somewhere between Bjork and a handbrake". She has made harp music influenced by Venezuelan and west African rhythms fashionable to indie fans. And stranger still, this mix sells out venues such as the 3,000-capacity Royal Festival Hall in minutes.
We meet again the afternoon after her performance on Later, and she has only been up a few hours after "quite a few post-show cocktails". Newsom is easygoing and down-to-earth, staying in a nondescript Hyde Park hotel. I order some tea, and she bites her lip: "I thought it might be time for a glass of wine. But no, you're right, tea! I can't get drunk on tape!"
Born in Nevada City in 1982, a tiny goldrush town in northern California, Newsom tends to get characterised as an otherworldly type – a fairy, a pixie, a magical soul. And it's fair to say that her musical tastes are unusual: her parents took her to study at folk music camp as a child, while her musical heroes include folk singer Roy Harper and minimalist composer Ruth Seeger. She admits she's said some "dumb things that added fuel to the fire", and wishes she had been more canny. "You know, if people ask a question that contains within it the assumption that I am a pixie, and then I have to respond – it validates the assumption."
Far from being a pixie, she worries that she doesn't read enough and watches "too much crappy TV". She's also a big fan of Jay-Z and Kanye West – though not Lady Gaga. "I'm mystified by the laziness of people looking at how she presents herself, and somehow assuming that implies there's a high level of intelligence in the songwriting. Her approach to image is really interesting, but you listen to the music, and you just hear glow sticks. Smart outlets for musical journalism give her all this credit, like she's the new Madonna …" She breaks off and laughs. "Although I'm coming from a perspective of also thinking Madonna is not great at all. I'm like, fair enough: she is the new Madonna, but Madonna's a dumb-ass!"
Later, she emails to clarify what she describes as her "late-afternoon dopiness" on this subject: "I may have contradicted myself. My problem isn't actually with Lady Gaga. But there's not much in her music to distinguish it from other glossy, formulaic pop. She just happens to wear slightly weirder outfits than Britney Spears. But they're not that weird – they're mostly just skimpy. She's fully marketing her body/sexuality; she's just doing it while wearing, like, a 'fierce' telephone hair-hat. Her sexuality has no scuzziness, no frank raunchiness, in the way that, say, Peaches, or even Grace Jones, have – she's Arty Spice! And, meanwhile, she seems to take herself so oddly seriously, the way she talks about her music in the third person, like she's Brecht or something. She just makes me miss Cyndi Lauper." And on the subject of Madonna: "I shouldn't have called Madonna a dumb-ass. Her music and she have just gotten so boring to me, this last decade. I think maybe she doesn't hold her money very gracefully, the way some people can't hold their drink. But one thing she is surely not is dumb." She signs off warmly and sweetly, but it's not exactly a retraction.
Source: The Guardian.

Joanna Newsom Calls Madonna ''A Dumbass'' And Lady Gaga ''Arty Spice''
'Lady Gaga? She's Arty Spice' ... Joanna Newsom.
Photo: Sarah Lee for the Guardian.

Newsom Takes on Gaga, Madonna
Monday, May 10
"Lady Gaga is Arty Spice!"
Thanks to Matt Albertsen for the tip.
Posted by Ryan Dombal on May 10, 2010 at 9:45 a.m.
Like M.I.A., Joanna Newsom isn't buying into the Lady Gaga hype. In a recent article in The Guardian, the indie singer-songwriter-harpist had some choice words for the world's most fashion-forward pop star: "I'm mystified by the laziness of people looking at how she presents herself, and somehow assuming that implies there's a high level of intelligence in the songwriting. Her approach to image is really interesting, but you listen to the music, and you just hear glow sticks. Smart outlets for musical journalism give her all this credit, like she's the new Madonna [...] Although I'm coming from a perspective of also thinking Madonna is not great at all. I'm like, fair enough: she is the new Madonna, but Madonna's a dumb-ass!"
Who knew Newsom had that kind of venom inside of her?! Not even Joanna herself, apparently, because she quickly realized the quote was a bit much, and later sent an e-mail to The Guardian clarifying-- though not taking back-- her statement:
"I may have contradicted myself. My problem isn't actually with Lady Gaga. But there's not much in her music to distinguish it from other glossy, formulaic pop. She just happens to wear slightly weirder outfits than Britney Spears. But they're not that weird-- they're mostly just skimpy. She's fully marketing her body/sexuality; she's just doing it while wearing, like, a 'fierce' telephone hair-hat. Her sexuality has no scuzziness, no frank raunchiness, in the way that, say, Peaches, or even Grace Jones, have-- she's Arty Spice! And, meanwhile, she seems to take herself so oddly seriously, the way she talks about her music in the third person, like she's Brecht or something. She just makes me miss Cyndi Lauper. [...] I shouldn't have called Madonna a dumb-ass. Her music and she have just gotten so boring to me, this last decade. I think maybe she doesn't hold her money very gracefully, the way some people can't hold their drink. But one thing she is surely not is dumb."
Strong words. You could argue that Gaga's success in making people like M.I.A. and Joanna Newsom hopped up enough to consider the idea of art and talk out of turn in interviews basically fulfills her purpose. She's a provocateur, and it seems to be working.
Source: Pitchfork.

Joanna Newsom Calls Madonna ''A Dumbass'' And Lady Gaga ''Arty Spice''

 

Joanna Newsom: Lady Gaga Not Even As Interesting As ‘Dumb-ass’ Madonna
5/10/10 at 1:15 PM
By: Lane Brown
Following M.I.A. and Andy Rooney, magical fairy creature Joanna Newsom is now the third eccentric ingenue to come out as anti-Gaga. In a terrific interview with the Guardian today — which the writer implies Newsom gave while still bombed from the night before ("She has only been up a few hours after 'quite a few post-show cocktails' ...") — the harpist compares Lady Gaga unfavorably to Madonna, then slams Madonna too.
Says Newsom, probably between hiccups:
"I'm mystified by the laziness of people looking at how she presents herself, and somehow assuming that implies there's a high level of intelligence in the songwriting. Her approach to image is really interesting, but you listen to the music, and you just hear glow sticks. Smart outlets for musical journalism give her all this credit, like she's the new Madonna …" She breaks off and laughs. "Although I'm coming from a perspective of also thinking Madonna is not great at all. I'm like, fair enough: she is the new Madonna, but Madonna's a dumb-ass!"
Later, in a followup email, Newsom attempts to retreat from the above snaps, but then says some even more pointed things:
"I may have contradicted myself. My problem isn't actually with Lady Gaga. But there's not much in her music to distinguish it from other glossy, formulaic pop. She just happens to wear slightly weirder outfits than Britney Spears. But they're not that weird - they're mostly just skimpy. She's fully marketing her body/sexuality; she's just doing it while wearing, like, a 'fierce' telephone hair-hat. Her sexuality has no scuzziness, no frank raunchiness, in the way that, say, Peaches, or even Grace Jones, have — she's Arty Spice! And, meanwhile, she seems to take herself so oddly seriously, the way she talks about her music in the third person, like she's Brecht or something. She just makes me miss Cyndi Lauper."
And on the subject of Madonna: "I shouldn't have called Madonna a dumb-ass. Her music and she have just gotten so boring to me, this last decade. I think maybe she doesn't hold her money very gracefully, the way some people can't hold their drink. But one thing she is surely not is dumb."
Good points, all! It's just too bad Newsom couldn't have expressed this in the form of a harp-y, Van Dyke Parks—arranged dis track.
Source: Vulture/NYmag.


Joanna Newsom Calls Madonna “A Dumbass” And Lady Gaga “Arty Spice”
Monday, May 10, 2010 10:31AM - By Travis Woods
Pitchfork
reports that indie folkster Joanna Newsom came out swinging in a recent interview with The Guardian, lambasting two female musicians whose dedication to image, in her opinion, completely supersedes their ability to actually make listenable music.  Or, as she puts it, Lady Gaga’s music is all “glowsticks” and “Madonna’s a dumb-ass”:
I’m mystified by the laziness of people looking at how she presents herself, and somehow assuming that implies there’s a high level of intelligence in the songwriting. Her approach to image is really interesting, but you listen to the music, and you just hear glow sticks. Smart outlets for musical journalism give her all this credit, like she’s the new Madonna… Although I’m coming from a perspective of also thinking Madonna is not great at all. I’m like, fair enough: she is the new Madonna, but Madonna’s a dumb-ass!
Despite the hilarity (and accuracy) of Newsom’s bile, she sent a quick e-mail to The Guardian to elaborate on some of her comments:
I may have contradicted myself. My problem isn’t actually with Lady Gaga. But there’s not much in her music to distinguish it from other glossy, formulaic pop. She just happens to wear slightly weirder outfits than Britney Spears. But they’re not that weird– they’re mostly just skimpy. She’s fully marketing her body/sexuality; she’s just doing it while wearing, like, a ‘fierce’ telephone hair-hat. Her sexuality has no scuzziness, no frank raunchiness, in the way that, say, Peaches, or even Grace Jones, have– she’s Arty Spice! And, meanwhile, she seems to take herself so oddly seriously, the way she talks about her music in the third person, like she’s Brecht or something. She just makes me miss Cyndi Lauper.”
In other news—Joanna, will you marry me?
Newsom did, however, backtrack on her Madonna-bashing:
I shouldn’t have called Madonna a dumb-ass. Her music and she have just gotten so boring to me, this last decade. I think maybe she doesn’t hold her money very gracefully, the way some people can’t hold their drink. But one thing she is surely not is dumb.”
What do you think of Newsome’s comments?
Source: Beatcrave.


Joanna Newsom Starts Beef With Lady Gaga and Madonna
Posted about 18 hours ago
The ladies of indie rock are mad as hell, and they're not gonna take it any more! We already heard M.I.A.'s thoughts on Lady Gaga, and now it's harpist Joanna Newsom's turn to take potshots at the pop star, and Madonna just for good measure. From the Guardian via Pitchfork:
I'm mystified by the laziness of people looking at how she presents herself, and somehow assuming that implies there's a high level of intelligence in the songwriting. Her approach to image is really interesting, but you listen to the music, and you just hear glow sticks. Smart outlets for musical journalism give her all this credit, like she's the new Madonna [...] Although I'm coming from a perspective of also thinking Madonna is not great at all. I'm like, fair enough: she is the new Madonna, but Madonna's a dumb-ass!
Yeah, if you're going to dress up in a gimmicky outfit, like, say, some kind of magical elf pixie in the woods, at least have a couple killer folk albums under your belt, right? Perhaps sensing the backlash these thoughts would bring, Newsom was quick to backtrack a little bit in a follow-up email:
I may have contradicted myself. My problem isn't actually with Lady Gaga. But there's not much in her music to distinguish it from other glossy, formulaic pop. She just happens to wear slightly weirder outfits than Britney Spears. But they're not that weird-- they're mostly just skimpy. She's fully marketing her body/sexuality; she's just doing it while wearing, like, a 'fierce' telephone hair-hat. Her sexuality has no scuzziness, no frank raunchiness, in the way that, say, Peaches, or even Grace Jones, have-- she's Arty Spice! And, meanwhile, she seems to take herself so oddly seriously, the way she talks about her music in the third person, like she's Brecht or something. She just makes me miss Cyndi Lauper. [...] I shouldn't have called Madonna a dumb-ass. Her music and she have just gotten so boring to me, this last decade. I think maybe she doesn't hold her money very gracefully, the way some people can't hold their drink. But one thing she is surely not is dumb.
Phew... we can handle the Gaga hate, but why go after Madge? Regardless, we're sure Gaga's fans will now have to ask their friends if they know who this Joanna Newsom lady thinks she is... sigh. How long before we hear Fever Ray's take?
Source: MOG.

Joanna Newsom Calls Madonna ''A Dumbass'' And Lady Gaga ''Arty Spice''
Joanna Newsom Calls Madonna ''A Dumbass'' And Lady Gaga ''Arty Spice''
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